tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6882268403920558613.post3285330564662599512..comments2023-06-28T08:34:35.859-04:00Comments on Reading, Writing, and the Stuff In-Between: Patrick E. Craig and Free Books!Trish Perryhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/14983379845476025642noreply@blogger.comBlogger24125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6882268403920558613.post-18496673296491049612019-08-24T19:58:31.394-04:002019-08-24T19:58:31.394-04:00Just as some churches focus on feeding the flock a...Just as some churches focus on feeding the flock and some focus on outreach, some of our books are tailored specifically for those who already love the Lord, and maybe some of our books need to serve as vessels of outreach. I pray you and Murray feel lots of guidance in your project, Patrick!<br />Trish Perryhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14983379845476025642noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6882268403920558613.post-61019945937414204632019-08-24T11:20:47.638-04:002019-08-24T11:20:47.638-04:00I've had mixed responses, Trish. Some Christia...I've had mixed responses, Trish. Some Christians say they wouldn't read it, some understand the dilemma. But the General market is way bigger than the Christian market and we need to decide if we want to keep preaching to the choir or reach out to the lost. And if so, can you use everyday language without losing your salvation? Add in the fact that the most Christian publishers have moved toward Happily Ever After Romance which is not the reality of most folks without Christ. So we will continue with the project.Patrick E. Craighttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14524792610540479544noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6882268403920558613.post-54207555476014956062019-08-24T01:04:21.075-04:002019-08-24T01:04:21.075-04:00I'm curious, Patrick, what kind of feedback yo...I'm curious, Patrick, what kind of feedback you've received elsewhere with this question. Is this the norm for the average reaction? <br /><br />I struggled in the past somewhat similarly, when wanting to write a novel that might be read by mainstream readers but would draw them to God (especially to Christ). So I've started with extremely lost characters who eventually find their way, but I was told many Christians won't read about those characters--they must have Christians. I've seen examples of inspirational-market novels since then that prove that argument wrong.<br />Trish Perryhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14983379845476025642noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6882268403920558613.post-24438465772338648232019-08-22T23:38:11.118-04:002019-08-22T23:38:11.118-04:00Also, remember that despite the "Marine"...Also, remember that despite the "Marine" language we might use, the Gospel is shared clearly and boldly.Patrick E. Craighttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14524792610540479544noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6882268403920558613.post-84086964348871587412019-08-22T21:55:50.332-04:002019-08-22T21:55:50.332-04:00I hesitate to give n example here, since this is n...I hesitate to give n example here, since this is not the market nor the readers the book would be aimed at. If I say rough language, again, I do not mean gross or salacious, no purient sexual references, no taking the Lord's name in vain. <br /><br />Patrick E. Craighttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14524792610540479544noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6882268403920558613.post-25202233177817767502019-08-22T20:38:34.649-04:002019-08-22T20:38:34.649-04:00I'm not sure what rough language means. Can yo...I'm not sure what rough language means. Can you give an example?<br />Though I know Marines often use "rough" or bad language, I don't want to read this when I have a little time to read a work of fiction.Derinda Babcockhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03468415269305922612noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6882268403920558613.post-77085615827991559832019-08-21T08:52:44.276-04:002019-08-21T08:52:44.276-04:00What an interesting story! Sure would like to rea...What an interesting story! Sure would like to read this one. If I am blessed to win, Ii would like a print copy as that is all I can read. Vivian Furbay jtandviv (at) q (dot) comVivian Furbaynoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6882268403920558613.post-15249573444247955192019-08-20T11:31:23.214-04:002019-08-20T11:31:23.214-04:00Beth Scott... Keep working on it. I guess I'll...Beth Scott... Keep working on it. I guess I'll just have to get a best-seller this year so she can't afford not to. LOL And yes you can pre-read the Amish Menorah. That book may be involved in a project that was born in Shipshewana, I'll be saying mor about that later.Patrick E. Craighttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14524792610540479544noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6882268403920558613.post-55549803750872130562019-08-20T11:27:49.343-04:002019-08-20T11:27:49.343-04:00Remember, dear readers... I said rougher language ...Remember, dear readers... I said rougher language not foul or gross. The one thing I won't do is use salacious language or take the Lord's name in vain. We did find a couple of replacement words and there are no graphic sexual scenes or references.<br />Patrick E. Craighttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14524792610540479544noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6882268403920558613.post-11039795295089318482019-08-19T17:33:02.885-04:002019-08-19T17:33:02.885-04:00I read at least as much mainstream fiction as Chri...I read at least as much mainstream fiction as Christian fiction, so I'm not easily offended, as long as language isn't graphic or blasphemous. I know I would have no problem with the"rough" language you suggest, Patrick. It truly is difficult to instill authenticity in hard-edged characters and still not offend some readers. I wish you and Murray the best in that effort.Trish Perryhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14983379845476025642noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6882268403920558613.post-15944746774691755132019-08-19T15:41:28.974-04:002019-08-19T15:41:28.974-04:00I believe google would have sent you my email?
Lor...I believe google would have sent you my email?<br />Loretta Shumpertlorettahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16672979865710811359noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6882268403920558613.post-20883101599381241872019-08-19T15:38:58.190-04:002019-08-19T15:38:58.190-04:00Knowing you and Murray Pura "somewhat", ...Knowing you and Murray Pura "somewhat", I know that the language would not be foul. But just how much you could use and not push the edge...?<br />Here's my solution:<br />As I read anything or on facebook and someone may not want to actually use a word they may use the first letter, followed by the correct number of blanks to complete the words. However, OUR MINDS FILLS IN THE BLANKS and we get exactly what was intended. For instance, d---.<br />You could use BS instead of the word, I feel that's acceptable. Also use hell as that is a literal place, not just a swear word.<br />That may be a way of pleasing most. There isn't a way to have it both ways, I don't think. A compromise of sorts. Make up a few words of your own, i.e a guy who uses the expression Oh, snap! Snap it!<br />Best of luck figuring it out and I definitely want to read it!<br />lorettahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16672979865710811359noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6882268403920558613.post-43326769463119640972019-08-19T15:19:58.579-04:002019-08-19T15:19:58.579-04:00I'll try again..
1. Most are aware the langua...I'll try again.. <br />1. Most are aware the language of the military is rough. I don't think you'd be gross about it. <br />2. May I be a pre reader for the Amish Menorah?!<br />3. Amor mi Tien sounds like it's right up my historical fiction alley!!Beth Scotthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15967710243587946082noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6882268403920558613.post-81865505073207657632019-08-19T15:16:52.551-04:002019-08-19T15:16:52.551-04:00And...I'm still working on you know who about ...And...I'm still working on you know who about you know what! 😁Beth Scotthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15967710243587946082noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6882268403920558613.post-9820286645086098102019-08-19T14:27:31.705-04:002019-08-19T14:27:31.705-04:00This would be a tough question but I agree with Ki...This would be a tough question but I agree with Kim and I would love to read this book Thanks for the chance! SARAHTAYLOR601973atYAHOOdotCOMSARAH TAYLORhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07807511255282811150noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6882268403920558613.post-16010634389391623272019-08-19T14:01:27.715-04:002019-08-19T14:01:27.715-04:00If the book is military theme then yes there shoul...If the book is military theme then yes there should be rough language in it. Just not whole lot of foul language. cheetahthecat1986ATgmailDOTcom.kim hansenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12951846304316134717noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6882268403920558613.post-2774839645019718772019-08-19T13:27:24.644-04:002019-08-19T13:27:24.644-04:00I think as long as it doesn't insult God in an...I think as long as it doesn't insult God in any way it is o.k. , God is only deserving of Praise. We hear ugly language every day and that is life, like I said as long as they are not insulting God. Have a great week. God Bless you all. Your book sounds very intriguing like a real page turner, the cover looks pretty mysterious ! aliciabhaney@sbcglobal.netLichahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09459121764687276827noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6882268403920558613.post-15698069181384458982019-08-19T12:57:23.444-04:002019-08-19T12:57:23.444-04:00I don't like reading foul language in books. I don't like reading foul language in books. Emmanoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6882268403920558613.post-43605607717849789442019-08-19T12:35:27.179-04:002019-08-19T12:35:27.179-04:00Forgot to leave my email
Neesie315@yahoo.comForgot to leave my email<br />Neesie315@yahoo.comNeesiehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06645846343849682744noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6882268403920558613.post-52890170485670650962019-08-19T12:33:38.477-04:002019-08-19T12:33:38.477-04:00Tough question! I think most readers of Christian...Tough question! I think most readers of Christian fiction would find "rough" language offensive, but authenticity would be to use it.Neesiehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06645846343849682744noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6882268403920558613.post-22689450948616705712019-08-19T11:54:37.221-04:002019-08-19T11:54:37.221-04:00Interesting views, but I have had several Beta rea...Interesting views, but I have had several Beta readers with military backgrounds (most of them Christians) tell me that without the "Marine" battle language the book would be inauthentic and most non-Christian or military readers would put it down.Patrick E. Craighttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14524792610540479544noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6882268403920558613.post-88160568546236554072019-08-19T11:06:58.918-04:002019-08-19T11:06:58.918-04:00I think if it's a Christian book then it shoul...I think if it's a Christian book then it shouldn't have bad language in it. Maybe write it into the book by just saying that the person uses bad language and we know that is a sin, especially if it takes the Lord's name in vain. Also having lived next door to a retired Marine, who is a Christian, I have never heard any bad language out of him. Joy B.noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6882268403920558613.post-88726438654845759202019-08-19T11:03:56.918-04:002019-08-19T11:03:56.918-04:00First, what a timely book. I just returned from a ...First, what a timely book. I just returned from a trip with a friend (our husbands stayed at home) to Amish country, Lancaster, PA. We stayed on an Amish Farm and soaked in the peace and quiet. This was such an incredible experience. I'd love to read this book and see what life was like in Europe for the Mennonites. Interesting! As for "rough" language in a book to reach a non-Christian audience with a Christian message, I'm assuming there would be a turn-around for this rough talking marine. I think some language would be acceptable, but I personally don't like reading foul language in books (thus I read Christian authors mostly). But I see where you are coming from and perhaps if it is presented as a pre-warning to readers who are used to not having to experience foul language, it might be OK. I always check to watch for things like that before reading a book. Anyway, the new book sounds intriguing.<br />Lorigeorge at hotmail dot comLori91301https://www.blogger.com/profile/15263092800666166106noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6882268403920558613.post-17776762531205015442019-08-19T10:43:21.952-04:002019-08-19T10:43:21.952-04:00Not sure what you mean by "rough". Using...Not sure what you mean by "rough". Using God in the word would not be acceptable to me. <br />I have always thought of Amish as being in the United States but not in Europe. mnleonahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02175831719334805581noreply@blogger.com